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David Van de Ven says:

Troy, for the record, I am not going to let anyone forget that you were
made aware of concerns about Rippln.?

David Van de Ven says:

Troy: I got an answer on my own. Mysterious advertising partner for App
Share is a company called AppLift. They’re the ones with the real tech
platform. However, they don’t pay nearly as much as Rippln is claiming.

HELLO PYRAMID SCHEME!?

Troy Dooly says:

David, I am not ignoring any video. I have not fully watched all of the
videos, and have had other pressing issues which have taken my time.

David Van de Ven says:

I noticed you completely ignored the Budd video I linked where he lied his
face off about the Rippln communicator being built by a top-of-the-line
U.S.-based tech firm. Are you ok with fraud, then?

TheProsperityMogul says:

Hey Troy… I appreciate your honesty(transparency) in this video post…
To me it speaks to your character.

David Van de Ven says:

My contact at King said (a few weeks ago) that they have no knowledge of
any deal with Rippln. I may have stirred up the hornet’s nest by tweeting
King’s account about it last week. Oh, and who is this mysterious
advertising partner who is paying the bounties? (What kind of company is as
lacking in transparency about its partners as Rippln is, anyway?)

Troy Dooly says:

Well the Receiver and many of us have been keeping people updated. You
might want to check MLM Help Desk regulatory or Zeek Rewards Receivership

lmtd86able says:

Still waiting for a response after filling my claim for net losers…

Troy Dooly says:

David, great question! I will find an answer. It might be that Candy Crush
asked to be removed. I know a few years ago a network marketing company was
selling or giving away Walmart gift cards and asked that their name not be
used to promote the company. I will check.

David Van de Ven says:

Rippln won’t answer this, maybe you will, Troy, because it sounds like your
client is skirting fraud: Why was App Frenzy advertised with Candy Crush,
and why did the initial PDF (which got pulled) have Candy Crush as one of
the apps, but suddenly, it disappeared and isn’t part of App Frenzy, with
no explanation from HQ. The problem with this is the other apps in the
catalogue don’t have 1/10th of the popularity (and revenue) of Candy Crush
Saga. I’d be a bit upset if I were a player.

David Van de Ven says:

You haven’t answered one single question with a direct and salient answer
in the entirety of my interaction with you. You have claimed to be a tech
expert but have repeatedly said that scaling is a difficult problem to
solve. You cannot have it both ways: are you a tech expert who is
perpetuating a lie for the sake of his client, or are you so ignorant on
the subject matter that you really should not be claiming the title of
“tech expert”? My money is on the former.

Troy Dooly says:

David, not at all. The questions are great questions and most have already
been answered via comments, RippLn threads and social profiles. Again,
since this is not a RippLn thread the info is being missed by those who
truly want, need and desire the answers. (That is for me directly) RippLn
has their own channel and can respond on their own. I am not a PR guy for
them, so I have no response on that side of things.

David Van de Ven says:

Rippln (and you, for that matter) pay lip service to transparency, but
getting a direct answer out of you or your client is like pulling teeth.

David Van de Ven says:

So you’re saying their IT people are so incompetent they can’t handle using
a modern framework (django, for instance) that takes care of all the
scaling for them? They can’t call Rackspace and get load balancing for
$10.95 a month? Commerce on the scale you’re talking about is a solved
problem. International commissions and referral tracking is a hard problem?
Really? That you’re arguing it’s a tough problem shows that you either
really don’t grasp the tech or are being disingenuous.

Troy Dooly says:

I will agree on the surface with you. However, this is not just about one
app. This is about a whole platform, community if you will. I have covered
this in RippLn threads and articles. It is not just the stability of the
app, it is the stability of the whole community. So the whole platform has
to work as flawlessly as possible. The comp structure, comp payout,
database, etc. I realize you are focused on just the apps, I am focused on
the whole business model.

Troy Dooly says:

I have not spun anything. RippLn has to pull the trigger on the
communicator app and some of the other products they have talked about
releasing. I have brought up some additional questions and have talked
about some of the answers given by Brian and others.

Troy Dooly says:

I just saw this question. Why does it matter who hired me, as long as you
and the rest of the world know I have been hired? Will it change your
position about RippLn?

Troy Dooly says:

Great question. I have talked about this in the RippLn threads and on my
blog. Again, let’s get these great questions on the right videos or on the
right article.

David Van de Ven says:

You really haven’t answered any questions directly, no. You’ve managed to
stall for over a week, though, so good job.

David Van de Ven says:

Here’s another Q, Troy. What, exactly, is Rippln doing that hasn’t been
done before?

David Van de Ven says:

Still no direct answer to the implied question of “who is the Rippln
investor who hired you”. At least you’re consistent.

David Van de Ven says:

No, You do defend their actions with spin. You avoid direct answers to
tough questions and engage in non sequiturs like this one.

David Van de Ven says:

No, you can’t, Troy. If you had a grasp of how video and voice chat worked
you’d know that the app has nothing to do with the number of users that can
connect, and that scaling problems on the software, network, and hardware
ends are simple problems any CS graduate could probably handle. It’s not
like the hard problems with scaling and load balancing haven’t been solved
and the solutions aren’t available via API in modern webapp frameworks.

David Van de Ven says:

youtube url v=D68Xdwy04wo starting around 13:00 in, the big lie is about
14:30 and he repeats the impossible lie that the number of users was the
reason for scrapping the app.

Troy Dooly says:

And you are right about not questioning some of the contradictory
narrative. When I hear something that sounds nuts, I just go to the source
to get an answer. I learned a long time ago that marketers tend to
exaggerate the facts, where software developers tend to under-exaggerate.

Troy Dooly says:

You would also realize, I have yet to defend any of their actions, but do
consistently raise additional questions and which provide the possibility
of a differing opinion than yours. This is called critical thinking and
allows for the implausible and impossible to possibly become a reality if
someone can write the code. As you and I both know most of the current code
for mobile or otherwise was at one time implausible and thought to be
impossible.

Troy Dooly says:

Finally we are on the same page when it comes to mobile software
development. I have a team that handles that side of my business. As for
general computer science… I can whole my own on that side of things 🙂
And, if you could write without your emotions seemly getting involved, then
you should be able to realize, I would also agree on the fact there are
some implausibilities and impossibilities at times in what comes out of
RippLn.

Troy Dooly says:

David, great question. Can you provide me a link where JB mentioned this,
so I can get the whole comment? As foe the second part of your comment.
Most good developers I know collaborate with others on large projects. And
when the project is completed depending on the contracts used, others are
either given credit or not! I would hope if others are also working on the
project, they will get credit if that is their desire.

Troy Dooly says:

LOL… Well it could have been Budd for that matter, or someone who is just
a passive investor. If you were in the RippLn thread or had read one of the
articles I had already written that was answered. When I write I tend to
make sure the info is where the majority can get the answers.

Troy Dooly says:

I am pretty sure I have answered the questions. As for asking questions…
Well you seem to be in the wrong thread for the questions and the answers.
This is not on RippLn! And, I have several hours of video from an interview
I did have with Brian that will be published soon.

David Van de Ven says:

You’re right, Troy. It is entirely possible that you are ignorant enough on
matters of mobile software development, and computer science in general,
that you do not have a sense of the implausibility (and in some cases,
impossibility) of some of Rippln’s claims. It might be that you are so
good-natured that you do not question the often-contradictory narrative
coming out of HQ, even if you do not understand the technical jargon. If
that is the case, I apologize.

David Van de Ven says:

Here’s a good Q: Who is the “expensive, top-of-the-line U.S.-based tech
firm” Budd said was hired to work on the communicator app, and why did
Rutherford say Craig Jourgensen was the sole developer? (Again, he has a
full time job at a company that makes Point-of-Sale systems. How can he
possibly be “Lead CTO” for Rippln and be maintaining the career mentioned
in his separate linkedin entry, the one where he doesn’t mention the scammy
stuff like rippln and bizeeti and zooplr? )

David Van de Ven says:

It’s funny how you guys never mention specifics. For example, not
mentioning the name of the investor who hired you. Guessing Underwood or
LaCore.

David Van de Ven says:

If you’re not on a leash, how come you’re not answering (or asking) any
questions? I mean, like I said, it doesn’t really seem like you care too
much about my questions, but the thing is, anyone with a tech background
would be able to validate that they’re good questions which demand answers.

NoMoreEver925 says:

Everything you do is meaningless. When you can show that you make money
from something real & you have teams of people under you currently making
money, then ill ATTEMPT to give you props & respect. In the mean time
you’re nothing but a weak opinion… You dont even get paid to talk poorly
about WUN or others…

Troy Dooly says:

ROFLOL… What leash? I am not hired by RippLn, and the investor that did
hire me, did not hire me to defend anything about RippLn. 🙂 You might want
to study what a lie is, and what it is not!

Troy Dooly says:

Want to explain?

Troy Dooly says:

Well spoken!

Raudel Perez says:

Look whatever the case is we got dealt the shorthand of the stick, if you
put your money in (like me) and got screwed over or You did your Homework
and try to see how the company works and if what the information they gave
you or Troy to let us know isn’t correct but its all you can get then of
course your going to go for it and your going to make money and once ruled
that the information was misleading, all the people the net losers, net
winners and people reporting all get screwed.

Troy Dooly says:

Hmmm… what money bro? Seems you have not read the SEC finding. But all
good!

Troy Dooly says:

ROFLOL… Wearing one ear ring. But hey I love allowing folks to show their
intelligence in public. 🙂

NoMoreEver925 says:

kinda like with WUN, right?

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